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Aug 26, 2016 21:52:14 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 21:52:14 GMT
So hello everyone, not sure if anyone here would recognize the username but I used to RP on tumblr with my rather unique Wheeljack in the Prime continuity. The activity here looked incredibly interesting to me, so I decided to look into it after a long time of being away from RPing with Transformers with others. My idea, if it's possible for me to join this route: I would like to bring back my variation of my favorite character: Wheeljack of Kaon, a scientist who briefly joined the Autobot cause as a fighter pilot supporting the Wreckers. A true Decepticon at heart, Wheeljack left the Autobots, who he had originally joined in pure hatred and spite for those who accosted him in Kaon early in the war, after finding out his true worth to them. He swore fealty to Megatron and turned on those that once called him an ally. His proving ground was Darkmount Pass, where he sold out and slaughtered the Wreckers. His signature black and red fighter earned him notoriety on both sides as he aimed to be the top fighter ace of the war to rival Seekers who he spent a life envying. He especially made it a point to shoot down members of the Council whenever he could. A devoted Decepticon to the original message of equality for the masses, freedom for self determination, and most of all (for him) a Kaon free from Iacon's iron fist is the message Jackie adheres to. He still holds true to morality, putting him at odds with Megatron and other Decepticons who follow the new message of "peace through tyranny." Despite that, he still continues to fight for the Cause, the only one he believed to be just, and the one he still hopes would give Cybertron a bright future. Now granted with all that he's clearly from a different universe, his backstory differing and would show glaring problems in the universe if there are two Wheeljacks running around, especially one as a Decepticon! And before you ask... the evil doppelganger does not have an evil goatee. Rodimus' goatee would look terrible on him. Plus he'd have to steal it first.I'm curious to what everyone would think of the idea if I were to join with him <:
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Aug 26, 2016 22:23:04 GMT
Post by Counterklock on Aug 26, 2016 22:23:04 GMT
I have spoken at length with @maverickgrenadier regarding this rather exciting issue. The addition of a Decepticon Wheeljack from a vastly alternate universe to our own forum one could certainly be a titillating plot point for the whole site, with ramifications that would be felt far and wide both in-character and out. We could end up having our very own episode of "Mirror, Mirror", with an evil doppelganger running around causing havoc and mayhem.
i especially am in favor of DeceptiJack having an evil goatee.
I do have some concerns, however, which I have also discussed with @maverickgrenadier .
Transformers Prime: Convergence is first and foremost a Transformers: Prime RPG. Our plot, while timey-wimey and universe-breaky, is mainly tailored to fitting the Aligned continuity, though we do, of course, allow some characters to be brought from other continuities (be they adapted to TFP or fallen through the rifts between universes). While the Convergence is a very useful thing to explain why we might have a Mikaela Banes, a Sari Sumdac, or a Barricade, an evil doppelganger of an existing character could be pushing the constraints of our setting too far. We are not far along enough in our main plotline for the continuity error forecast to permit such a huge jump, but then again, the setting can be bent to accommodate this.
We would have to devise some way of being able to tell these two Wheeljacks apart in-character and out. I also am concerned about having multiples of any character, as our forum configuration does not easily allow for them, unlike Tumblr, where one might encounter many iterations of the same character played by many different people. If the staff team were to permit this Decepticon Wheeljack on the board, it would be unlikely that we would permit any more multiples, meaning this would be a one time thing. It's quite easy to see, given our plot and setting, how our forum can turn into a pan-continuity roleplay with multiple versions of a character running around (the logistics of updating canon and directory lists alone is a bit of a nightmare), but I don't feel that this is what Transformers Prime: Convergence is truly about, being we are based strongly upon TFP and the Aligned continuity.
I would certainly appreciate the input of our community in this matter. What do you guys want to see?
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Aug 26, 2016 23:10:22 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 23:10:22 GMT
As the admin of a pan-fandom RP elsewhere who has had to deal with the doppelganger issue with a few characters from a series with multiple timelines (*cough*Undertale*cough*)...I can understand the issue of finding a way to tell the two apart on the OOC end of things, as it would depend on space constraints having someone put Wheeljack (Decepticon) as their name to tell which Jackie is which for OOC as opposed to IC--in which even the smallest differences might be the interesting way to tell them apart. There's the idea of using Decepitijack, Con Wheeljack, or Alt Wheeljack for the display name in case, but I'd rather that come up to the choice of the player.
IC, it would actually be quite interesting to see this development and the confusion it might cause for both the Autobots who know Wheeljack as the eccentric bomber Wrecker with authority issues and the Decepticons who know Wheeljack to be just that good at combat and bomb use against them. While it's tough to explain the logistics when the rift effects of the Convergence are involved, it could be rewarding story-wise! I know I would certainly be having fun with my characters IC having to figure out which one is the Wheeljack they know--and if they can trust this doppleganger.
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Aug 26, 2016 23:50:30 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 23:50:30 GMT
The thing about this that totally moots the idea of "oh, who is our Wheeljack?" is the fact that maverickgrenadier's Jackie has Decepticon emblems on him, one that any Autobot can notice and pick out.
Although I have to say, that kind of brings some fun when questioning why Jackie got Con insignias on himself. Deceptijack can lie about being undercover or something.
If that is the case, then I can totally roll with an AU con Jackie.
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Aug 27, 2016 2:45:18 GMT
Post by Shotimus on Aug 27, 2016 2:45:18 GMT
I think that this could be a pretty cool idea, and since Ratchet is in a relationship with Wheeljack this could definitely mess with him a bit if played the right way. Not to mention confuse the heck out of poor Wrecker Hot Shot. He'd be dense enough to not notice the difference between the two right away. However, something I did think of that could benefit 'Deceptijack' is the whole Makeshift thing from Prime if he wanted to play the double agent. Not so say that he'd act the same way Makeshift did when posing as Wheeljack, but just to throw an idea out there.
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Aug 27, 2016 3:38:04 GMT
Post by Jim on Aug 27, 2016 3:38:04 GMT
hey hello hi i'm tired as hell so my filter's dead, here's my opinion: how does wheeljack singlehandedly steal a top-shelf fighter and fly it to kaon without neither Cons nor Bots shooting him down. like dayu m nn. and i mean i like the concept of Con!wheeljack but i'm not sure it'll fit the forum. at least not at this point in time. the plot simply hasnt been furthered enough for it. @maverickgrenadier could grab Con!wheeljack and make him an OC I guess? or even an old friend of wheeljack's (if Counterklock agrees) but AU Con!wheeljack doesnt fit the forum's plotline right now and idk if he ever will.
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Aug 27, 2016 4:07:47 GMT
Post by Counterklock on Aug 27, 2016 4:07:47 GMT
After no small amount of thought and debate on the matter, we've decided that a Decepticon Wheeljack from an alternate universe would not fit this forum at this time, and would open up a door in regards to allowing multiples of characters. The concept itself is something that is truly interesting, but, like Jim said, it doesn't quite fit our forum's plotline.
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Aug 27, 2016 6:31:14 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2016 6:31:14 GMT
C'est la vie. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, as they say. I'll most certainly be lurking around here and there. OCs have never been my forte as far as Transformers go. I do look forward to reading what goes on here and following the interesting storyline from afar. <:
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Aug 28, 2016 10:32:13 GMT
Post by Darkstar on Aug 28, 2016 10:32:13 GMT
*See a french sentence* ... Hi!
Welcome aboard, you evil Wheeljack! It's a pretty interesting idea. I can't wait to see you'll do this. =) And yeah, I'm late for everything. Again. Just a question, this picture is from you? It's very well done!
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Aug 31, 2016 19:48:18 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 19:48:18 GMT
*See a french sentence* ... Hi! Welcome aboard, you evil Wheeljack! It's a pretty interesting idea. I can't wait to see you'll do this. =) And yeah, I'm late for everything. Again.Just a question, this picture is from you? It's very well done! Actually no, a friend from tumblr did these edits for me. I've collected a bunch of screencaps I saw on various Wheeljack appreciation posts I saw back when I RP'd there. You'll find me skulking about the OOC areas and spying on the various stories around here. Evil Wheeljack...never thought of calling him that. Even if he is a moral "evil" :B
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